cantor. he decides he is voting no. part of the leadership. lori: not until there were enough yes votes to get requisite approval for the deal. melissa: what would your advice be? >> i think republicans would he will be well-served to discover if they are a political party or simply a fund-raising origination and a branding mechanism. because they seem to have no ground operation which is essential if you will be a political party and you're going to it up candidates for president. they don't seem to have any principles they won't abandon. they seem to have no vision they will share with the rest of us. you i think they're really at cliff, they're at the precipice no longer being a relevant political party. lori: that is huge statement, lou. melissa: could they use the opportunity, whether the debt ceiling or --. lori: sorry to come in but the social issues. you know what i mean. do they need to do better job connecting with the general public on social side of things, gay marriage, abortion,